[♪ theme music ♪] >> bill: good morning, everybody. happy friday. oh, boy, and welcome to the "full court press" here on current tv. good to see you today, and of course i'm wearing my nat's cap again because the nats won last

night. and also about joe biden's performance last night. that's the big story of the day of course. joe biden did everything last night that president obama did not do in his debate last week. he was cool, confident, cocky, convincing, and paul ryan was flustered all over the place. and every time joe biden smiled you knew paul ryan was lying. first let's with today's current news update. lisa ferguson outin los angeles. >> good morning, everyone. it was the aggressive joe biden, democrats wanted and it was an aggressive joe biden they got. >> it has been done couple of times >> it has never --

>> [ inaudible ] >> oh, now you are john kennedy. it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of americans are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. >> biden was caught smirking smiling, and even laughing through much of the debate. not sure how you could not laugh because of the lies coming from ryan. according to the twitter verse biden's most popular remark of the night was when he asked ryan now you are jack kennedy. that lead to more than 7,000

tweets per minute. we will have more on the debates coming up on bill press and on our current news updates. join us in our chat room current.com/bill press. see you there.

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[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: broadcasting across the nation on your radio, and on current tv this is the "bill press show." >> bill: for the nats and for the democrats, a big night last night. hey, what do you say, everybody? guess what? it's friday. ♪ hallelujah ♪

>> bill: what a big friday. favorite day around the "bill press show." ♪ hallelujah ♪ >> bill: thank you so much for joining us. the "full court press" is what we call it. on your local progressive radio station, on sirius and on current tv. we'll bring you a lot of debate audio. bring you people who were there to talk about the debate and of course give you a chance to sound off about it at 866-55-press, 866-557-7377. we were not at the debate but peter ogburn was at the nat's

game last night. >> i was. >> dan henning joining me. >> i was watching it on tv. >> bill: i watched the entire game last night, i want you to know. carol and i did. i can't tell you the last time i watched an entire baseball -- ball game. >> good for you. >> i called bill last night, 5:00, and he is like make this quick i'm watching the game. >> bill: yeah, i think it's the first sports event that i watched, you know, the whole thing -- >> front to back. >> bill: probably since i was in high school. >> you don't even watch the super bowl front to back. >> bill: no, are you kidding. and let's say hello to monty calcelor. siprion bolling winding up his special assignment.

we'll be back next week. and we'll hear all about it i'm sure. >> nice trip to maui. >> bill: tell us about this game last night peter. >> it was unbelievable. >> bill: cardiac baseball. >> yes. the cardinals tied it up whole game 1-1. we got to the bottom of the night, top of our roster and jayson werth comes up, that was epic, and he just kept fouling it off and fouling it off and fouling it off. >> bill: the post has every ball, strike, strike foul foul, ball, ball and then foul foul, foul foul -- they document the whole time at-bat.

>> it was intense everybody in the stadium was standing and hanging on to every park. >> the pitch! deep left field, going, going, gone! [ cheers and applause ] >> it's all over! [ cheers and applause ] >> jayson werth! 00! unbelievable! >> a bomb went off in that place when he hit that. i mean the crowd went berserk. >> and you also have to give credit to the pitching. >> bill: the pitching was really incredible. >> that was a baseball fan's baseball game.

great pitching not a upon of hits, but it was a struggle the whole game. >> bill: i read the -- here i am reading the sports page -- >> boy oh boy. >> bill: right. so one of the columnists say it was the best game of baseball ever played, certainly in washington, d.c. >> absolutely. absolutely. it was amazing. >> bill: and by the way the giants came through. sadly the as did not. but the os did. >> boy oh boy, those os are playing scary-good baseball. >> bill: we might get that beltway series. >> i'm pulling for the os. >> bill: i was talking to aing

friend, and he said i am rooting for the tigers. and i thought i have a bunch of teams i am rooting for. >> i don't know what washington will do -- there are so many people who have been bomber fans for so long -- for so long, that we're going to have to pick a team here. it's got to be nats. >> bill: i got it. i don't have an os cap. sharon brown is going to be along as well as jamal simmons, and we'll check in with nasa this morning. that's the only thing we're going to do that is not baseball. >> that's it huh? [ laughter ] >> bill: and we'll talk about

that little debate last night. but first -- >> paul ryan became a laughing stock on the internet before the debate thanks to a photo shoot he agreed to be "time" magazine. he was doing a workout routine. and the blog sphere had a heyday with it. >> bill: the photo is on our facebook page. this dumb-ass photo of paul ryan sitting on the bench holding his dumbbell. >> uh-huh. controversy? birmingham, alabama after a reporter announced his

engagement to his long-time boyfriend. the same station refused to air the episode of the ellen degeneres show when she came out. >> bill: a little bit of a homophobe there? there ain't no gays down there in alabama. >> the media surely had a good time -- >> bill: i had an affair once with a guy from alabama? >> what is that? >> bill: i didn't say that. [ laughter ] >> go ahead. >> bill: i didn't say that. >> the media surely had a good time at last night's debate.

the immediate got a small bottle of kentucky bourbon in the swag bag. >> bill: man i'm sorry i didn't go down for that debate. and we're just trying to get a beer at the white house. >> yeah right. >> bill: i got to tell you, two home runs last night. jayson werth saved the day, and joe biden saved the day for the democratic party. you know there was a lot of pressure on joe to perform, and he delivered the mail. i'm telling you, he was from the get-go -- i know you were as excited as i was -- from the get-go he came out strong. he came out swinging. he drew the contrast when president obama and mitt romney.

making sure that people understood that that was the choice in this election. and rebutted every single lie that ryan tried to tell. i loved when he said facts matter. you are damn right. joe biden did everything right in that debate that president obama did not do. i kept making notes go joe. he was strong. he was right on it. he knew what he had to do and made his points. if you watched the debate you know, but just to remind you of a few highlights. he mentioned the 47% and destroyed romney on who these 47% are. >> these people are my mom and dad, my neighbors. they are elderly people who in fact are living off of social

security, veterans and people fighting in afghanistan right now, who are quote, not paying any taxes. >> bill: and this just shows you, again, joe biden putting the republicans in their place and painting them as the greedy bastards that they are. >> i have had it up to hear that this notion that 47% -- it's about time that they take some responsibility here, and instead of signing pledges to grover norquist, they should be signing a pledge saying to the middle class, we're going to level the playing field. we're going to give you a fair shot again. we're not going to repeat the same mistakes we made this the past. making sure we continue to hemorrhage these tax cuts for

the super wealthy. tax cuts that will give $500 billion in tax cuts to 120,000 families. and they are saying we won't continue the middle class tax cut unless you keep the tax cuts to the well think. >> bill: he nailed it. nailed it. it is romney and ryan who are on the side of the wealthiest people in america. and biden didn't hesitate again to call ryan out. he tried so many lies -- remember he said last night, his plan on medicare was bipartisan because ron widen the senator from washington was aco sponsor of it. and biden jointed out no you changed it and widen no longer

supports it. here is joe biden calling ryan out -- i think this is on the defense cuts. >> we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts because what that done when we equivocate on our values -- >> bill: get in there. >> they are much more willing to test us. >> with all due respect that's a bunch of mularkey because everything he said was not true. >> bill: paul ryan came across as inexperienced and very very nervous. did you notice how many times he kept sipping water, like get me out of here. obviously a lot of his lines were rehearsed.

he was not natural or uncomfortable at all. ryan said, mitt romney is a car guy. yeah, his father was the head of a car company, but he wanted detroit to die. >> to be fair mitt romney is a car guy. he has so many cars he needs an elevator for them. >> bill: and he said let me tell you about mitt romney he helped people who were injured in a car crash. and basically joe biden turned to him and said don't talk to me about car crashes, buddy. my wife and son were killed in a

car crash. so ryan didn't have such a good night. anyhow, i thought it was great what do you say? 866-55-press. and all the reasoning could say was joe biden was smiling too much. you know why he was smiling? american people know why he was smiling, because every time joe biden smiled paul ryan was lying. that's what that smile said. let's talk about it at 866-55-press. >> announcer: stephanie miller. radio meets television. the "bill press show" now on current tv. ♪

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>> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> bill: 24 minutes after the hour. last night's debate joe garofoli astounding performance. we also have to give kudos to martha raddatz. i thought she favored paul ryan too much at times. he just kept talking over her, and she let him get away with it, and she was quick to challenge joe biden and not give him as much time and joe biden pointed that out on a couple of occasions. but she was so much better than jim lehrer. she knows her stuff. she moved it along, and didn't lose control of the debate and i thought she did an outstanding job.

dan is in virginia what do you think, dan? >> caller: i am in total agreement. to me the smile and laughing was perfectly timed. if you were doing a movie and you had the vice president, there was -- everybody knew you were lying. because paul ryan was saying things or lines that the insiders -- those of us what have watched this campaign when knew when it was just talking-point garbage. >> bill:. >> caller: and he was smiling right on queue. >> bill: yeah and i think it helped him last night. and that was the contrast of the split screen with president obama who was looking down making notes -- >> caller: and remember how they

gave romney points for interrupting and being rude right? >> bill: right. >> caller: but this is when i jumped out of my seat and was satisfied with this whole debate. if obama loses, it was because he didn't kick congress in their ass every day of this campaign. i watched the debate in 2004 and the president of the senate got after john edwards about -- if he would have did that, whoo! it would have been over. >> bill: yeah. i loved that -- when he pointed out that one of the reasons -- when joe biden pointed out that one of the reasons we're in this mess is this guy right alongside of me voted for two wars and put it on

a credit card. he nailed paul ryan on that one. good job joe. more calls coming up. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show."

♪ >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> bill: oh, boy. 33 minutes after the hour now. friday morning. all right glad to see this weekend come, any weekend come actually, and we have lots to celebrate this morning before get into the weekend here on the "full court press." good to have you with us. we'll get back to your calls about last night's debate.

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and that somebody could be you. check them out at incomeathome.com, that's incomeathome.com. paul ryan clearly the rookie on the stage last night, and it showed in many many ways even went so far as to injoke john f. kennedy. >> it has been done before -- >> it has never been done before. >> it has been done a couple of times. jack kennedy increased growth -- >> oh now you are jacki kennedy. >> bill: that was lloyd benson responding to dan quayle's brag -- what year was that -- oh when jimmy carter -- no water mondale.

>> yeah it was mondale. >> bill: so 1980 for. >> i have as much experience as jack kennedy did when he sought the presidency. senator, i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator you are no jack kennedy. >> bill: oh, stab -- stick the knife in. but of course quayle ended up becoming vice president. here is jay calling from atlanta, georgia. how, what did you think? >> caller: good morning, biden came in like a professional fighter. he was armed with facts. he was talking about the car

industry and how ryan and the republicans have made a request for stimulus out of one side of your mouth and that's the facts, ping, bang. i mean give me a break. i just wish that biden had a chance to talk about that false lies that they was saying that the president has raised taxes on the middle class. he hasn't raised any taxes. >> bill: he cut taxes on the middle class. i agree, jay, he hit them on every point. and i love when paul ryan's attack of the stimulus is not working, and biden said look at this guy, he sent me two letters

requesting money. and ryan had to admit, yeah i did that but it was just on behalf of my constituents. biden was right on top of that one. roger out in los angeles. good morning. >> caller: good morning, bill. biden used ryan like a punching bag yesterday. and that he got that letter -- >> bill: that was funny wasn't it? yeah. >> caller: ryan proposed a bill where he wanted to cut security by $200 billion. >> bill: when they were talking about libya, he said they didn't

have enough security. and biden said yes, one of the reasons is because you as head of security cut the budget for the department of state. i didn't know that by the way. and biden was right on top of that. >> caller: and the other point [ inaudible ] the irans have already have the missile facility -- >> caller: yeah. >> caller: [ inaudible ]. >> bill: that's a good point. paul ryan tried to trot out bb netenyahu. and joe biden basically said oh, come on kid. barack and i were talking to him last week for over an hour. he buried paul ryan on that netenyahu deal. i got to tell you, i -- i hope

for next week's debate that joe biden spends the next four days coach president obama. lennet in st. louis, missouri. you'll have to forgive my nats here. >> caller: it looks good on you. my comment is this. yes, damn skippy every time romney and ryan open their mouths, they are lying. and i pray on election day we do not prove them to be right as lazy good for nothings and that we get out and vote. >> bill: that's what we have to do. that's the only way to get even right? >> that's right. >> bill: yep. up to philadelphia hi jay,

good morning. >> caller: good morning. first time caller. we don't have a liberal radio station in philadelphia. >> bill: isn't that a disgrace. >> caller: all we have is democracy now but it is not funny. but now i am better informed and better entertained. >> bill: well thank you. >> caller: yes, i dvr you guys and i don't even need television anymore when paul ryan started. his first paragraph, he was like names and places names and places. if he would been questioned on any of those he would have been floundering because i bet he

didn't even find the places on the map. >> bill: yes you are right. he was throwing out names and places, and i was thinking you don't know what you are talking about. >> caller: yeah, and the second part too -- this is something that mr. biden didn't touch on last night but yesterday to the day before, in darrell issa's hearings, there were two buildings involved and the second building they revealed that it was a cia weigh station. so that means they are going to dig up all of the film of who went in and out of that building. >> bill: good point. and here they were you know,

revealing everything about it at that hearing, because darrell issa is an idiot. he's a partisan hack. compare, jay, what henry waxman did. he went after -- remember the tobacco companies, the oil companies, and drug companies, and all issa does is use it as a partisan club. >> caller: yeah and the gun thing -- >> bill: yeah fast and furious. >> caller: he spent millions and millions of dollars and time to find out that it was george bush's plan. and when arizona has such lax gun laws they went to someone's house that bought like a thousand guns, and then they

couldn't do anything about it. >> bill: that's right. we have a lot of fun too here. as hopefully you learn something as well as have a lot of laughs. we're going to take a quick break for just a second to find out what is happening on the planet mar. a little update next. >> announcer: on your radio, on tv, the "bill press show," new on current tv. ♪ (vo) during the debates, it's hard to know what candidates are thinking. unless, of course you've stood at the podium yourself. with governors granholm, spitzer, and vice president gore, watch the only truly experienced presidential debate coverage.

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>> announcer: heard around the country, and seen on current tv. this is the "bill press show." >> bill: all right. thirteen minutes before the top of the hour. off the politics for just a second here. it has been a little over two months now since curiosity landed on the planet mars has been very, very busy since then. looking at rock samples, collecting dirt samples -- soil samples on mars. how are things going we want to check in with dr. beagle at nasa's jpl lab out in california. joining us very early this

morning, but luther you really operate on mars time right? >> yes, and it is a 24 hour 40 minute day. >> bill: so what time is it on mars now? >> i do know i have an app for it on my cell phone, but i'm talking on it so it's hard to tell. >> bill: okay. is curiosity doing the job you expected it to do? >> yeah it has operated flaw >> bill: tell us about -- we

know rocks on earth. are these the same kind of rocks that we have on earth. >> no, see there are all different types of rocks we just found on mars. the rock we just found was called a jake rock. it is completely different than anything we have seen on mars before. we see a rock on mars. we see a rock on earth and we assume it is created in the same general way. this looks like it was created in a way like no rock we have ever seen on mars. it looks like it was created similar to a volcanic situation. and we're still trying to figure out what it all means.

>> bill: you scoop up the soil but you are not sending any back to earth, so you are analyzing it on the spot right? >> yes we just touched our first soil two [ inaudible ] ago. and what we're doing now is still cleaning out our system. we don't want to put anything in our instruments that has any type of material in it at all, so we're using this pile of sand and dirt to clean out everything. and then we'll put it in the instruments. one instrument tells you about what type of material it is made of. and the instrument -- if you ever watch csi, they talk about gcs all the time. and it tells you what the

chemical composition is. >> bill: i know you talked about traces of water. will this tell you this? >> yes. it will tell us whether there is organic material on the surface. and that's kind of what we are looking for. we know organic material should be there and we're just trying to fine out what type of material would be there. >> bill: does organic material mean signs of life? >> no just carbon-bearing minerals. we see organic material and amino acids? meteorits all the time.

>> bill: we are talking to dr. beegle at jpl. we'll have a link up on our website to follow him. and i saw a story the other day that curiosity came up with something that didn't look like it belonged on mars. >> yeah. we call it a fod, foreign object debris. >> bill: how did it get there? go ahead. >> we're not sure. we looked down at an image we were taking and saw a little piece of shiny material in the first image, and we were very worried that we were falling apart. when we take better pictures of it, it actually looks like a little bit of wire. and what we think it is -- there

is a bunch of theories but the theory i believe in, is the landing, that seven minutes of terror everybody talks about. we did a lot of cutting of things, and things fell apart as we came down and as it showily came down, you can see that it settled in this area. >> bill: all right. i thought maybe somebody dropped a penny up there. dr. luther beegle thank you very much. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪

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[♪ theme music ♪] >> bill: good morning, everybody. happy friday. welcome to the "full court press" this friday october 12th. great to see you today. what a beautiful day it is going into the weekend. glad to have you with us to talk about the issues of the morning and to get involved in the conversation by giving us a call

at 866-55-press. and there's only one topic today and that is last night's debate in danville kentucky and joe biden delivered. he did everything last night that barack obama did not do in his first debate. biden was cool cocky, confident, convincing and paul ryan just sounded like he was reading his talking points. go joe, and thank you for a great job last night. we'll talk about that but first let's get the latest from lisa ferguson standing by in los angeles. hi, lisa good morning. >> hey, bill. good morning, everyone. joe biden is proving he can come out swinging again after last night's debate. mitt romney called paul ryan afterward to congratulate him.

president obama watched on the plane. he called biden to tell him he thought he was terrific. >> i think the vice president well knows that sometimes the wores don't come out of your mouth the right way. [ laughter ] >> but i always say what i mean. >> but biden also managed to take a very calm serious tone throughout much of the debate especially during his closing statement, when we alluded the reason for his previous laughing was out of frustration. >> you probably detected by frustration with the attitude.

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[♪ theme music ♪] >> announcer: broadcasting across the nation on your radio, and on current tv. this is the "bill press show." >> bill: what do jayson werth and joe biden have in common? they both hit it out of the park yesterday. hello, everybody, great to see you today. it is friday october 12th. the morning after the vice presidential debate and what a great performance it was by vice president joe biden.

saving the day, in fact for president obama. great to see you today. thank you for joining us. we're coming to you live all across this great land of ours coast-to-coast. and we'll let you know what happened last night in danville kentucky. we'll let you know what is happening here in our nation's capitol, around the country and around the globe. and give you a chance to weigh in on the conversation at 866-55-press. great to see you today. we go into the weekend here but we have lots to talk about before we will get. peter ogburn and dan henning, hi guys. >> we're like a weird hungover version of the avengers. >> bill: yes peter coming from

the nat's came last night. i stayed away so they could win. >> look if they win tonight, that's it no more games for you. >> bill: well maybe just tell me who they are playing, and i'll go sit on their side. >> that is an excellent idea. >> bill: monty our videographer for the week. president obama -- joe got some praise last night from the highest sources of the boss -- the boss was very happy his performance. >> obama: i thought he made a very strong case and, you know, i -- i really think that his passion for make sure that the economy grows from middle class came through. >> bill: all right. and by the way, he did a better job than i did. no, he didn't say that. >> he is going to say that at

some point i have a feeling. >> stephanie: senator brown from ohio will join us later in the program. we'll go to a reporter who was in danville last night. and then jamal simmons who was in last week as a guest host will be here today as a friend of bill. but first -- >> announcer: this is the "full court press." >> as we just mentioned another round of great october baseball. it took 13 pitches before jayson werth hit the game-winning home run. baltimore was victorious forcing a game five out best. >> bill: are they playing in new york? >> yes. >> and they won in yankee stadium. >> bill: yeah. yeah.

>> the tigers shutting out the athletics. the giants were successful -- >> they tried to throw that game away yesterday. they were way up and nearly gave it away. >> they are heading to the alcs. >> bill: to the win -- >> if the giants play the nats who do you root for? >> that's right, mr. san francisco. it's a no-brainer you have to go nats. >> bill: i'm nats. i'm living in washington so it has to be nats. putting me on the spot. [ laughter ] >> just wait until he does media in california where he says go giants. >> agents found drugs and guns

on his person. ten pounds of marijuana -- >> only ten pounds -- >> seven people including nelly were detained. and then one person claimed all the drugs. >> bill: maybe they ought to try another check point. >> and whitney houston's daughter is engaged to be married. she is set to marry our adopted brother, nick jordan a&e confirms the news. they adopted the boy when he was

12 years old -- >> um . . . >> bill: that is weird, creepy and that is trouble. you know that is trouble with a capital t. do they live in mississippi? [ laughter ] >> thank you. ♪ >> bill: all right. 12 minutes after the hour. it was a big night last night. a great show. you have got to admit it. and there in danville kentucky last night, evan mcmorris santora was there. what was it like last night. >> we were in a big gymnasium

all of us watch it together. but there was a lot of talk early in the debate -- as soon as the debate started there was a lot of talk about joe biden's grins and throwing his hands in the air, but as the debate went on -- i heard less of that. i think if you watch the debate and then saw what joe biden was able to do. he was just so much more aggressive than obama had been and there is a lot of focus on how aggressive he was. that's the tenner of things that i felt. and the expectations are really on biden to be aggressive, and i think there is no denying he definitely did that. >> bill: he was, i thought from the first response right, he was strong aggressive.

he pointed out the contrast on issue after issue between president obama and mitt romney. and then throughout the evening, he challenged paul ryan on everything that paul ryan tried to get away with. >> yeah, i mean -- >> bill: and he did it in such a way that he was polite but at the same time right he didn't let ryan get away with anything. >> i thought it was an interesting point that he kept making, was the idea where he would point over to ryan and say come on, guys look at this guy. look at us, who do you believe is going to take care of things in the middle class? who do you believe is going to take care of medicare or issues like that. i thought that that was sort of -- there was talk before the debate that sitting at a table together would make it harder

for the two guys to engage each other. that was clearly not the case. in fact i thought with them seated like that at the table it was almost easier for biden to point over and do his folksy thing. >> bill: that setting was so much better than what we saw in denver. they were close to the moderator. they were around the table. i thought it helped produce a very lively and engaging debate last night. it's interesting this morning, % and even last night, the first thing in the spin room, the republicans are saying biden just smiled too much, and he was condescending. they were comparing him to al

gore up against george bush in 2000. fox new's headline was "down right disrespectful." [ laughter ] >> bill: but to me there was a very strong message that biden was sending every time he smiled, which was don't believe a word he was saying. every time you saw biden smile you knew ryan was lying about something. >> absolutely. i think we have the image of biden -- his head back his hands cast up, in the sort of like are you kidding me kind of face. >> bill: right. >> but paul ryan seemed to sort of hold his own against that kind of attack. you know paul -- biden was coming at him fast and furious but paul ryan definitely stuck

to his sort of talking points and his lines, and i -- i don't think got completely rattled. >> bill: no, he didn't. but you used the phrase talking points. particularly on foreign policy he was throwing out names and places and saying we can't be weak stuff that you say romney or most conservatives say. i wanted to play you one clip where i thought joe biden was particularly effective. this is when -- paul ryan attacked the stimulus as a huge $800 billion boondoggle. >> the vice president of in

charm of overseeing this. >> i love my friend here. he sent me two letters saying can you send stimulus money to wisconsin -- >> you did ask for stimulus money. >> on two occasions we applied for constituents for grants. >> i love this. >> bill: kudos for biden on that one, don't you think? >> yeah that was a zinger. what this debate had that denver did not have was the sort of take away like very viral moments, which is important these days. and that's is one of those ones

that plays beautifully on the internet, and you are going to see it a lot. >> bill: i also thought it was funny that paul ryan's best defense when barack obama saved the american auto industry. and mitt romney said let them go bankrupt. the only thing paul ryan could come up with was listen mitt romney loves cars. >> he does have a lot of cars bill. >> bill: yeah, he has so many he has to have a car elevator. [ laughter ] >> that is just about the only democratic attack line biden didn't use. 47% he said a bunch of times. >> bill: yeah. yeah. >> all of these things that people were hoping to hear from

obama in denver. obama hasn't said that biden outperformed him, but it is true when it comes to all of these things that democrats wanted to hear from the debate they got them all other than maybe the exception of a car elevator dig. but maybe a down-interested toed democratic base, after looking at the polls, may be a little more energized now. >> bill: a lot more energizes. evan thank you so much for your time. it's talkingpointsmemo.com. ♪ >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪ [ male announcer ] use any citi card (vo) during the debates, it's hard to know what candidates are thinking. unless, of course

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>> announcer: this is the "full court press," the "bill press show," live on your radio, and on current tv. >> bill: 25 minutes after the hour now. happy friday friday october 12th. every friday we like to take time out to give you our favorite sound bites of the week. ♪ >> bill: we think it is only appropriate after last night's great performance by vice president biden, that our clips today be all biden. all biden, all from last night.

first of all, he didn't accuse paul ryan of telling lies. he just accused him of trying to get away with -- >> announcer: number 5. >> this is a bunch of stuff. >> what does that mean? >> well it means it is inaccurate. >> bill: yeah. hah another irish phrase. >> announcer: number 4. >> and we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts because what that does when we equivocate on our values it projects weakness and when we look weak our adversaries are much more willing to test us -- >> with all due respect that's a bunch of malarky. because not a single thing he said is accurate. >> bill: no doubt about it. and then paul ryan -- oh this was his weakest moment.

he attacked the stimulus as a waste of money. >> announcer: number 3. >> you did ask for stimulus correct? >> sure he did. >> we advocated for constituents who were applying for grants. >> i love that this is such a bad program and he writes mae letter saying the reason we need this stimulus it will create growth and jobs. >> bill: so paul ryan on the one hand he is for the stimulus, and on the other hand he is against it. how about the sequestration? number 2. >> that was part of a debt deal that they asked for. and let me tell you what my friend said at a press conference announcing the deal. he said we have been looking for this moment for a long time. >> can i tell you what that meant. we have been looking for

bipartisanship for a long time. >> so that's what he voted for because they didn't act. >> bill: and then he was finally ready when paul ryan compared himself to john f. kennedy. >> announcer: number 1. >> it has been done before -- >> it has never been done before. >> it has been done a couple of times, jack kennedy increased growth, ronald reagan -- >> oh now you are jack kennedy? [ laughter ] >> bill: joe didn't have to say you are no jack kennedy, congressman. he didn't have to, because everybody knew what he was referring to. and have to give kudoses to martha raddatz. overall she was aggressive. she didn't lose control. she raised the right topics.

asked good questions. followed through with good questions. great job, martha. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪ (vo) during the debates, it's hard to know what candidates are thinking. unless, of course you've stood at the podium yourself. with governors granholm, spitzer, and vice president gore, watch the only truly experienced presidential debate coverage.

♪ >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> bill: here we go. thirtity-three minutes after the hour. it is friday october 12th. this is the day i have been telling you about. right after the show hopping on us air to go down to ashville north carolina. we'll have a big political rally tonight at avenue m restaurant from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m.

so if you are anywhere near ashville, within striking distance, come on down -- come on down and spend the weekend in ashville. it's a perfect time of year. i hear the fall colors are great. so we'll talk about last night's debate, and i'll be signing copies of my new book "the obama hate machine." i got a couple of calls yesterday telling me i am urgently needed in ashville because you may know who was in ashville yesterday? mitt romney, mike huckabee and john boehner. all on one day in asheville. >> oh man. >> bill: this began as a political rally. it is now an exorcism we'll be conducting now. what is that clip about get out -- >> oh, yeah. yeah. >> bill: this is what i'm going

to say tonight. >> get the hell out of my house in jesus name i pray! >> bill: there it is. [ laughter ] >> bill: so i'll see you tonight in ashville. and right now we'll talk about last night's debate. watching the debate with all of us danielle is the vice president for new communities and american values over at the center for american progress. we love the center and it's great having you in studio. >> thank you. it is nice to be here. >> bill: there was a lot of pressure on joe biden deliver last night. and did ho deliver. >> yes he was on fire from the moment he stepped until he closed. >> bill: he did. that very, very first response

about libya. he said we're going to go get those guys. now let me tell you the difference between barack obama and mitt romney. >> yeah i think i could hear anybody through my twitter stream go yes. this is the passion we were waiting for. >> bill: the 47% -- >> yeah that was so perfect the way he did it. he just sort of slid it in through his answer. i think my ipad broke when that happened. but he explained what it meant and why it was so horrific to say. >> bill: here is vice president biden. >> these people are my mom and

dad. they pay more effective tax than mitt romney pays on his income tax. they are veterans and people fighting in afghanistan right now. >> bill: you could hear the disdain in his voice. >> yeah it was perfect. biden had to walk a fine line of not showing too much disdain for paul ryan. >> bill: paul ryan said mitt romney misspoke and you ought to know what it is like when words come out of your mouth. and he said i always mean what i say, and so does mitt romney. >> yeah that wasn't a statement -- a misstatement.

it was a statement of truth. >> bill: yeah. he went on for like 17 minutes or something. >> yeah. >> bill: thing that did not come up in denver was the $716 billion. and mitt romney raised it three times. paul ryan tried it last night, and joe biden was right there. >> joe biden just smacked him down. they have been putting out this lie, and they have been taking out the waste and the fraud and putting it back in medicare. and i like that their plan makes medicare insolvent faster. >> bill: i know that the vice president knows the same $716 billion in cuts were in paul ryan's budget. >> right. >> bill: so who are you to

criticize president obama? >> yeah. >> bill: there was another issue that -- that came up when -- right toward the end when martha raddatz asked them how their religion affects their policies particularly on the issue of abortion. >> uh-huh. >> bill: the vice president said i'm a catholic but i'm not going to impose that on everybody else. >> that was a very very smart answer. >> bill: he said, but it is not my role unlike other people it's not my role to try toe force my religious viewpoint on all americans. here is the vice president on that. >> i -- i do not believe that -- that we have a right to tell other people that -- women they can't control their body.

it's a decision between them and their doctor. >> bill: that issue and also when he talked about the catholic church on the issue of contraception. i thought the vice president spoke strongly on the issues of women's health again, which president obama did not razor talk about the administrations record. >> yeah i thought it was a really important point. the economy matters, obviously, but what the republicans and this right-wing faction that has taken over their party is frightening. and you had paul ryan basically say, if we get into office we're going to pass legislation to overturn the woman's right to choose. the fact that paul ryan and mitt romney are going to go and try to change the law.

bypass the supreme court, and say no no no we're going to outlaw the right to choose. and that's an outrage. and i thought vice president biden really explained that no catholic hospitals and institutions do not have to give out birth control. >> bill: paul ryan said that no abortion except for the three exceptions, right? and yet as a member of congress he has been no way no how, no exceptions. >> right. >> bill: and he like todd akin think there is such a thing as legitimate rape. so how can you trust paul ryan

now on these -- on these issues. >> right you can't trust paul ryan because he has spent the last couple of years fighting against aborg in all cases. and even mitt romney -- he is all of the above. he will say whatever it takes to get elected. and if he gets in don't believe him. i don't trust him that he would even have these exceptions. >> bill: did the debate change anything? >> i think it did. look this is an election about turnout. and after last night, i think democrats are really really fired up. did it move people who are in

the middle. so i think there are some people in the middle who are taking a look at the ticket. >> bill: the cbs instant poll last night shows among independents that vice president won overwhelmingly. >> yeah >> among independents. >> yeah. >> bill: it certainly will reenergize the base. >> exactly. we have a seat at the table for you here. you can take it by just giving us a call at 866-55-press. friday's "full court press" friday october 12th. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." live on your radio and current tv. ♪

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1-800-356-5967. so let's open up here to say hello to leanna down in ashville north carolina. hope to see you tonight. >> caller: i didn't wait in the midst of this mess. >> bill: yeah. did last night make you feel better? >> it did. the fact that people are -- some people are focusing on his smirkiness and smiles. folks it's politics. it's not kindergarten. we have to get a little bit dirty in response to these lies. >> bill: i loved the fact that biden was -- unlike the president, he wasn't distracted at all and looking down and like he wanted to be somewhere else. when he was smiling there was a very strong message.

paul ryan is lying. >> right. exactly. what else are you supposed to do when the person you are debating keeps fibbing and not telling the truth. >> bill: biden was basically saying, i don't believe you are saying that. out is so far from the truth, right? >> exactly. >> bill: as the vice president said, facts matter. >> yeah, they do. >> bill: i thought the message was very, very clear. fox news here is the proof that it was effective. fox news this morning is accusing the vice president of being, quote, down right disrespectful. give me a break. elaine is in engelwood, california. >> caller: hello, bill. hi. for the next two weeks, i want

you to say instead of saying go nats. say go register to vote. >> bill: yep. >> caller: but anyway i'm so glad vp biden gave the president an open door to be a little bit aggressive. he won't be accused of being the angry black man. and we need before the next debate on foreign policy, we need to get those films out of mitt romney's ten or 12 companies, two of them have been flagged on international piracy. >> bill: uh-huh. >> caller: we need to get that "mother jones" out. and we need to remind women and

latino what will happen if he gets in. we need to get our people fired up, and just like how republicans hit the senior citizens, we need to remind people, he'll take away the dream act, women he'll take away your rights. and we need to get people out to vote and let people know what is going on in china. >> bill: i think we need elaine out on the campaign trail. >> exactly. [ laughter ] >> bill: but she did mention the middle class. joe biden has fought his whole life for the middle class. >> uh-huh. >> bill: if there is any doubt which team is for the middle class, i thought at the end of

the night, joe biden won that round. >> yeah, he did. >> bill: i thought joe was believable. >> uh-huh. >> bill: and he just pointed out that the tax cuts that mitt romney and paul ryan are both espousing helping only 120,000 families. >> right. >> bill: it was such a small percentage of the american people, and he said barack and i will fighting for the 99.5%, if you will. >> exactly. >> bill: and again, a point that the president didn't make clearly enough. joe biden did last night, what we wanted the president to do. and now wait for the next presidential debate. >> oh yeah it is on. >> bill: great to see you again.

thanks for the great work you do. it's americanprogress.org. come back again. >> i will. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." live on your radio and current tv. ♪ dose of politics from a fresh perspective. >>i'm a slutty bob hope. the troops love me. >>only on current tv.

cc [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> bill: all right. so is the president headed to bagdad today? well, nothing has been announced, but i'm just saying you know, we have a -- kind of a rule around the briefing room that when -- there's nothing on the president's schedule, that

means he is either going to ohio or iraq. so i guess it could be cleveland, columbus akron, or bagdad, because today on the president's schedule, nothing. no public events. no private events scheduled until 6:30 tonight. he is having dinners with the winners of the latest campaign contest that they -- they have every once in a while at 6:30. but that could be on air force one. >> sure. >> bill: jay carney has a press briefing scheduled for 11:15 a.m. that can always be canceled but at any rate, i won't be there, because i will be on my way to ashville, north carolina to join

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[♪ theme music ♪] >> bill: good morning, everybody. it is friday october 1st. great to see you today, and thank you for joining us here on the "full court press," coming to you live all the way across this great land of ours from our studio on capitol hill. good to have you with us today

and we always bring you up to date on all of the best news of the day. and today there is only one big news story, and that was last night's vice presidential debate. and joe biden did everything that president obama did not do last night. all right. we'll get into that and take your calls at 866-55-press but we start out with the latest. here she is lisa ferguson in los angeles. >> hey, bill good morning, everyone. let's fact some of the claims in the vice presidential debate. paul ryan was once again full of lies. here are a few more to add to the list. let's start out with defense cuts. ryan attacked biden for automatic spending reductions

coming in january. those are part of a plan created last year to raise the debt ceiling. and guess who voted for the plan? yep, paul ryan. romney told cbs? august he would consider spending in troop in syria to stop chemical weapons. but it took the obama administration two full weeks to admit the terrorism behind the benghazi attack. but that is not true. and ryan attacked the administration for spending tax-payer dollars on electric cars in finland. he is referring to a loan from the energy department to the car maker fiskar so they could

create electric cars. that loan money came from a program passed in 2007 before obama took off. we'll be right back. ♪

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[♪ theme music ♪] >> announcer: broadcasting across the nation on your radio, and on current tv. this is the "bill press show." >> bill: there were two home runs hit last night. jayson werth and joe biden. good morning, good morning it is friday october 12th. this is the "full court press." we're coming to you live from our studio here on capitol hill in washington, d.c.

and look who is back. by popular demand he was so successful last week. so popular. so many rave reviews. we had to bring jamal simmons back. >> i'm glad that my family -- the calls that came in from my family and relatives really did the trick. >> bill: just a word of warning, you say on that side of the desk. >> he is eyeing your chair. >> i kept everything the way you left it. >> bill: did you have fun? >> it was fun. we had a great time. >> bill: that's what i heard from the whole team. peter ogburn dan henning. and monty, siprion bolling is off on special secret assignment this week, aka, jamaica.

peter was at the game last night, and brought the nats through. >> good. good. my tigers won last night and stayed in the hunt. >> bill: i'm happy for the tigers. >> bill is truly torn. >> bill: imagine how i am going to be torn when my giants play my nats. >> yeah you will have tough internal battles going on. >> he already declared on air. >> what did he say? >> nats. nats. >> oh, wait until you go back to california. >> the good thing about bill's strategy if anybody loses or gets kicked out, he just jumped to another team.

[ laughter ] >> isn't he a cub fan? >> yeah, right. >> one time i visited st. louis. [ laughter ] >> bill: all right. way -- so, i want you to know some big news today not necessarily on the sports front or political front, on the music front, the stones are out with their first new song in -- i don't know how long. it is called "doom and gloom." listen to this. ♪ in a party and a plane ♪ ♪ all the passengers were drunken and insane ♪ >> that's a -- >> they didn't missed a beat. >> they really haven't. >> there are some older classic rock artists who miss the beat when they return. >> yeah. a lot of these guys especially when they go out on tour it's

to cash on the greatest hits album. but not the stones. >> bill: that's right. we'll finish up our meet the candidates this week with anne kuester from new hampshire. great candidate. she lost by like .001% last time. but first -- >> announcer: stephanie miller. this is the "full court press." >> on this friday mitt romney has himself a google problem. internet searchers have found out that if you do an image search and type of the words completely wrong, nothing but photos of romney come up. it's actually a google staffer playing a trick here. the images pop up because they are linked to text admitting that his 47% comments were

completely wrong. so that is just the way that the search engine algorithm works. >> that happened with bush too -- >> yeah. >> bill: that's what happens when you tell lies all the time. >> the kentucky distiller's associate gave each reporter at the debate last night, a small bottle of kentucky bourbon in the media swag bag. >> bill: the one event i didn't show up for. >> and budweiser was immediately available. >> bill: last debate i went to you are lucky if you got a diet coke. >> a crafty thief has bln caught, the father of a cellar

owner replaced $3 million of a wine with two-buck chuck. the man is said to have pocketed at least $2 million. >> how funny. >> i remember -- i heard a legend that there is a president who used to do that -- take wine and after the bottles were done he would pour in cheap wine and serve it at dinners -- >> you are thinking of jesus. [ laughter ] >> it was bush. >> bill: or cheney. or both right. >> two buck chuck. >> bill: the house wine at the press household. chardonnay. >> is it out of a box? >> bill: no. it's trader joe's wine, and it is $2.99.

>> and it is great with breakfast. >> here is letting go of your california thing, huh? for the refined palate. [ laughter ] >> bill: get out of here. get out of here. [ laughter ] >> bill: so jamal there was a lot of pressure last night on vice president joe biden to deliver. did he? >> i thought he did a great job. he had a little too much english on the smile, but i thought that he had ryan on the defensive. i thought he played aggressively, and was very factual. he could go weepy for a moment and then take it back to wonkey. >> bill: and he came out of the box on fire. >> absolutely. >> bill: on libya he said it was

a tragedy, and we're going to find out who did it. and he was -- >> i thought that he -- this is one of the environments -- i don't know if there is something about the vice presidential debate setting in general but it seems like the older more established seasoned pro gets the bet er of the other one. dick cheney over edwards, and lloyd benson over dan quayle. something about the vice presidential debate is a little better for the older guy. and i thought biden clearly had home court advantage. he was in command. had facts and stories. you want to talk about reagan and tip o'neill, i was there. >> bill: yeah, and he said martha, look i wanted to straighten you out too.

i was in the oval office with the joint chiefs when they said this is what they wanted. i was there with the joint chiefs when they said that. >> absolutely. i this -- there were a couple of women i talked to last night who thought he was maybe a little rough with her at that moment. but he was commanded and authoritative, and it's hard to come back from that. if i don't know want to disagree with them, disagree with the joint chiefs of staff. >> bill: and as he said on more than one occasion facts matter. >> and we looked the camera in the eye and said who are you

going to trust? >> bill: actually i think it was who do you believe? [ laughter ] >> bill: peter the other thing he brought up which the president did not to our astonishment. he really lays out the impact of romney's comments about 47%. >> i have had it up to here that this notion -- it's about time they take responsibility here. and instead of signing pledges to grover for kwis not to ask the wealthiest among us to have the wealthiest among us contribute to rebuilding the middle class. we're going to make sure we hemorrhage these tax cuts for

the super wealthy. a tax cut that will give an additional $500 billion in tax cuts to 120,000 families. and they are holding host taming the middle class tax cut. >> i thought he nailed it. that pledge to the middle class that's exactly where most americans are. >> bill: unfortunately out of denver, romney got away with preaching that they were the saviors of the middle class. how did ryan do? >> i thought that ryan did fine. he didn't embarrass himself or romney. he made his points. sitting next to joe biden, i thought he looked smaller. he came back a little bit toward

the end. he was able to prif -- give some prepared statements. >> bill: yeah, he held his own. but he certainly looked inexperienced. he looked nervous. >> he did. >> did you notice how often he was sipping water, and talking points, particularly on foreign policy -- >> oh, yeah. >> bill: just rehearsed lines. >> absolutely. the guy doesn't have a lot of experience when it comes to foreign policy. >> bill: i want to come back to talk about the smile for a second, because what i thouktd joe biden was doing -- the president in the split screen was always looking down maybe making some notes. looked like he wanted to be anywhere else but on that stage. joe was hanging on every word

that paul ryan was saying. and when ryan would say something audacious or mendacious, biden would smile. >> right. i think there's something to that. but having said that it felt a little forced and inappropriate at moments, but the overall impression was biden was really getting under paul ryan's skin. saying listen, thank you, sonny, but i got this one here. >> bill: cbs, their install poll

of undecided voters put biden over ryan 50-31%. if that's true then biden really did score last night. >> i think two things. one the base loved it clearly. judging by twitter. >> bill: they needed a boost and they got it. >> i watched it with two or three people last night, and they were on fire. and what we may see -- we have this phrase on finance, about the dead cat bouncing. this may be an example of the romney/ryan campaign is a dying campaign, but i think we're almost to the end of it. >> bill: all right. let's open the door and let you in the con conversation here. i'm here with jamal simmons as a

friend of bill. 866-55-press is the toll free number. last night's debate. get into it when we come right back. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪ (vo) during the debates, it's hard to know what candidates are thinking. unless, of course you've stood at the podium yourself. with governors granholm, spitzer, and vice president gore, watch the only truly experienced presidential debate coverage.

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